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betsy_in_va
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:30 am    Post subject: Crossword puzzle on contest agenda Reply with quote
What would you think of putting a small crossword puzzle on the back of
a contest agenda? I was thinking this might be a creative way to keep
people quiet while the judges fill in the ballots. But, I've never seen
anyone do this (which makes me think it might be against the rules or
simply not a good idea). Thoughts?

Thanks, Betsy
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Mark Perew
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:30 am    Post subject: Re: Crossword puzzle on contest agenda Reply with quote
betsy_in_va <b7760@keogan.com> wrote:
Quote:
What would you think of putting a small crossword puzzle on the back of
a contest agenda? I was thinking this might be a creative way to keep
people quiet while the judges fill in the ballots. But, I've never seen
anyone do this (which makes me think it might be against the rules or
simply not a good idea). Thoughts?

Whatever your do, please don't put the judge's scoring guide on the agenda.
First, it's a violation of TI copyright. Second, it's a distraction. As a
speaker, I need an audience not a roomful of judges.

--
Mark Perew <perew@squeep.com>
To the world you may be just one person,
but to one person you may be the world. (Source Unknown)
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Colin William
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: Crossword puzzle on contest agenda Reply with quote
"betsy_in_va" <b7760@keogan.com> wrote
Quote:
What would you think of putting a small crossword puzzle on the back of
a contest agenda? I was thinking this might be a creative way to keep
people quiet while the judges fill in the ballots. But, I've never seen
anyone do this (which makes me think it might be against the rules or
simply not a good idea). Thoughts?

It might distract people from payign attention to speeches; however, if you
want to construct such puzzles, a great program to do so is Eclipse
Crossword:

www.eclipsecrossword.com

I use it to construct quizzes for my students.

Colin
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Joy
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: Crossword puzzle on contest agenda Reply with quote
"betsy_in_va" <b7760@keogan.com> wrote in message
news:1155519004.729842.281170@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
What would you think of putting a small crossword puzzle on the back of
a contest agenda? I was thinking this might be a creative way to keep
people quiet while the judges fill in the ballots. But, I've never seen
anyone do this (which makes me think it might be against the rules or
simply not a good idea). Thoughts?

Thanks, Betsy

I can't see any harm in it. Not everybody would bother to do the puzzle, of
course, but those of us who like them probably would.

Joy
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rich.hopkins@gmail.com
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: Crossword puzzle on contest agenda Reply with quote
Can you create one that has the following:

Across
1. Initially
2. Put
Down
3. Wealthy
4. Hannibal star

And give it to the DC judges?

Thanks,

Rich

betsy_in_va wrote:
Quote:
What would you think of putting a small crossword puzzle on the back of
a contest agenda? I was thinking this might be a creative way to keep
people quiet while the judges fill in the ballots. But, I've never seen
anyone do this (which makes me think it might be against the rules or
simply not a good idea). Thoughts?

Thanks, Betsy
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Joy
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Crossword puzzle on contest agenda Reply with quote
LOL! It took me a minute.

Joy

<rich.hopkins@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1155524553.117855.63930@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
Can you create one that has the following:

Across
1. Initially
2. Put
Down
3. Wealthy
4. Hannibal star

And give it to the DC judges?

Thanks,

Rich

betsy_in_va wrote:
What would you think of putting a small crossword puzzle on the back of
a contest agenda? I was thinking this might be a creative way to keep
people quiet while the judges fill in the ballots. But, I've never seen
anyone do this (which makes me think it might be against the rules or
simply not a good idea). Thoughts?

Thanks, Betsy
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Rod Taylor
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Crossword puzzle on contest agenda Reply with quote
"betsy_in_va" <b7760@keogan.com> wrote in message
news:1155519004.729842.281170@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
What would you think of putting a small crossword puzzle on the back
of
a contest agenda? I was thinking this might be a creative way to keep
people quiet while the judges fill in the ballots. But, I've never
seen
anyone do this (which makes me think it might be against the rules or
simply not a good idea). Thoughts?


Nothing in the rules to prevent it. On the negative side, some may find
the crossword more interesting than the speeches. Possibly something
like a simple logic puzzle that doesn't require continual reference to
the paper might be an alternative.

Rod Taylor (rodt iafrica - don't forget the @ and the dotcom)
Transformers Toastmasters Club
District 74, Southern Africa
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Colin William
Guest
PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Crossword puzzle on contest agenda Reply with quote
"Joy" <toastie@real-me.net> wrote ...
Quote:
LOL! It took me a minute.
rich.hopkins@gmail.com> wrote ...
Can you create one that has the following:

Across
1. Initially
2. Put
Down
3. Wealthy
4. Hannibal star

And give it to the DC judges?

Hah hah hah. I didn't get it at all until Joy noted that it was a joke. Very
clever :-)

Colin
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betsy_in_va
Guest
PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Crossword puzzle on contest agenda Reply with quote
OK this wins some sort of an award for Most Clever Post Ever!
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Colin William
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Crossword puzzle on contest agenda Reply with quote
"Rod Taylor" <seemysignature@nospam.ever> wrote
Quote:
What would you think of putting a small crossword puzzle on the back
of
a contest agenda? I was thinking this might be a creative way to keep
people quiet while the judges fill in the ballots. But, I've never
seen
anyone do this (which makes me think it might be against the rules or
simply not a good idea). Thoughts?


Nothing in the rules to prevent it. On the negative side, some may find
the crossword more interesting than the speeches. Possibly something
like a simple logic puzzle that doesn't require continual reference to
the paper might be an alternative.

One could ask the speakers in advance for a few clues to put into a
crossword, such that people would have to pay attention to be able to
complete it.

Colin
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betsy_in_va
Guest
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:35 am    Post subject: Re: Crossword puzzle on contest agenda Reply with quote
Oh, I really like this idea... I would just have to be careful to have
something from every single speech (to be fair) as well as something
about each club.
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Rod Taylor
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:53 am    Post subject: Re: Crossword puzzle on contest agenda Reply with quote
"Mark Perew" <perew@bokbok.squeep.com> wrote in message
news:ebp7h9$rfl@dispatch.concentric.net...
Quote:
betsy_in_va <b7760@keogan.com> wrote:
What would you think of putting a small crossword puzzle on the back
of
a contest agenda? I was thinking this might be a creative way to
keep
people quiet while the judges fill in the ballots. But, I've never
seen
anyone do this (which makes me think it might be against the rules
or
simply not a good idea). Thoughts?

Whatever your do, please don't put the judge's scoring guide on the
agenda.
First, it's a violation of TI copyright. Second, it's a distraction.
As a
speaker, I need an audience not a roomful of judges.

I'm in full agreement with you on the 'audience vs a roomful of judges'
issue.

Since judges are not permitted to discuss their scores or ballots with
anyone, speakers get no comparative feedback. One way round this is for
a speaker to distribute judging forms to non-judges and ask them to
provide the missing feedback. Supplying each member of the audience
with a form purchased from WHQ is legitimate. It's only a violation of
copyright if you print it on the agenda or anywhere else. Even then,
removing the ballot and printing the guide for educational purposes may
be defended as 'fair use'.

Rod Taylor (rodt iafrica - don't forget the @ and the dotcom)
Transformers Toastmasters Club
District 74, Southern Africa
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betsy_in_va
Guest
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Crossword puzzle on contest agenda Reply with quote
Update: Our District Judge ruled against the crossword puzzle idea. She
didn't say what the reason was, but I would guess it was the
distraction factor. That's ok, ideas can get better when they have a
year to simmer on the back burner. I can always try again next year, or
maybe find some other way to work in the crossword puzzle with clues
from everyone's speeches. I like that idea!
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Keith
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Crossword puzzle on contest agenda Reply with quote
Quote:
... That's ok, ideas can get better when they have a
year to simmer on the back burner...


or when the ideas become their own...

I've worked at places where my ideas were rejected for a few years. Then
the boss or VP comes up with that idea and suddenly it's mandated!

:^)
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Rod Taylor
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Crossword puzzle on contest agenda Reply with quote
"Colin William" <colintwilliam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Rod Taylor" <seemysignature@nospam.ever> wrote
What would you think of putting a small crossword puzzle on the
back
of
a contest agenda? I was thinking this might be a creative way to
keep
people quiet while the judges fill in the ballots. But, I've never
seen
anyone do this (which makes me think it might be against the rules
or
simply not a good idea). Thoughts?


Nothing in the rules to prevent it. On the negative side, some may
find
the crossword more interesting than the speeches. Possibly
something
like a simple logic puzzle that doesn't require continual reference
to
the paper might be an alternative.

One could ask the speakers in advance for a few clues to put into a
crossword, such that people would have to pay attention to be able to
complete it.


Nice idea. I like it.

Rod Taylor (rodt iafrica - don't forget the @ and the dotcom)
Transformers Toastmasters Club
District 74, Southern Africa
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