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p c
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 Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:12 am Post subject: is it true? |
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Is true?
Districts can pay for expenses to market Toastmasters in order to build
new clubs but cannot pay for expenses to market Toastmasters to attract
members to Toastmasters clubs. And that the latter must be done and paid
for by the individual clubs.
Member pay dues dues to clubs, including the TI portion. Club give the
members' TI dues to TI. TI returns part of those mber TI dues to the
Districts based on number of members. What do the districts do with
these monies? |
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Nigel Reed
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| Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject: Re: is it true? |
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p c <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
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Is true?
Districts can pay for expenses to market Toastmasters in order to build
new clubs but cannot pay for expenses to market Toastmasters to attract
members to Toastmasters clubs. And that the latter must be done and paid
for by the individual clubs.
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District 50 purchased bill boards in and around Dallas with the phone
number and an email address. They paid for the advertising.
They also have a CD with commercials for local radio spots.
| Quote: | Member pay dues dues to clubs, including the TI portion. Club give the
members' TI dues to TI. TI returns part of those mber TI dues to the
Districts based on number of members. What do the districts do with
these monies?
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The best say to find out what goes in and out of the district is to get
a copy of the treasurers report. Ask your Area or District govener to
obtain one if you don't want to bother the district treasurer.
Regards
Nigel
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Nigel Reed CTM, CL
IPP - Plano Talkers Toastmasters
Area 42 Govenor (Plains Division, District 50, Region III) |
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betsy_in_va
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| Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 7:02 pm Post subject: Re: is it true? |
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| Quote: | The best say to find out what goes in and out of the district is to get
a copy of the treasurers report. Ask your Area or District govener to
obtain one if you don't want to bother the district treasurer.
Is that something Area Governors are privy to? Does it get passed out |
in Executive Meetings or would we still ahve to go to the treasurer to
get a copy? |
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Rod Taylor
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| Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:19 pm Post subject: Re: is it true? |
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"betsy_in_va" <b7760@keogan.com> wrote in message
news:1154692932.702654.146270@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | The best say to find out what goes in and out of the district is to
get
a copy of the treasurers report. Ask your Area or District govener
to
obtain one if you don't want to bother the district treasurer.
Is that something Area Governors are privy to? Does it get passed out
in Executive Meetings or would we still ahve to go to the treasurer to
get a copy?
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Firstly, there is the Treasurer's report. This usually comprises the
audited Books of Account for District. These require acceptance by the
District Council at the AGM.
Like the financial statements of a company, these documents require
skill to read and interpret, but give a reliable guide to the financial
health and control of the organisation. However, little detail is
provided. By way of example, the Books of Account may have a single
heading 'Travel expenses'. This won't tell you how much was expended on
which trips by which officers. If you want that information, you will
need to ask for it specifically.
As I understand it any member is entitled to the detail if the wish.
Transparency is the aim.
Rod Taylor (rodt iafrica - don't forget the @ and the dotcom)
Transformers Toastmasters Club
District 74, Southern Africa |
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Colin William
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| Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: is it true? |
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"Nigel Reed" <see@www.nelgin.nu-slash-qconfirm.html.invalid> wrote
| Quote: | District 50 purchased bill boards in and around Dallas with the phone
number and an email address. They paid for the advertising.
They also have a CD with commercials for local radio spots.
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Wow. What the heck is my district using their money on? I never would have
imagined that a district would have that kind of budget for marketing.
Colin |
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betsy_in_va
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| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:08 am Post subject: Re: is it true? |
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| Quote: | Districts can pay for expenses to market Toastmasters in order to build
new clubs but cannot pay for expenses to market Toastmasters to attract
members to Toastmasters clubs.
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I'm curious to see an answer to this. What I wonder is: How would this
be determined? What would differentiate a billboard ad from being one
that builds new clubs or one that attract new members?
Betsy |
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Nigel Reed
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| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:10 am Post subject: Re: is it true? |
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betsy_in_va <b7760@keogan.com> wrote:
| Quote: | The best say to find out what goes in and out of the district is to get
a copy of the treasurers report. Ask your Area or District govener to
obtain one if you don't want to bother the district treasurer.
Is that something Area Governors are privy to? Does it get passed out
in Executive Meetings or would we still ahve to go to the treasurer to
get a copy?
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It should be passed out at the EC meeting, yes. Ours wasn't because the
treasurer wasn't there so I have yet to see one.
Regards
Nigel
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Nigel Reed CTM, CL
IPP - Plano Talkers Toastmasters
Area 42 Govenor (Plains Division, District 50, Region III) |
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Nigel Reed
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| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:19 am Post subject: Re: is it true? |
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Colin William <colintwilliam@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Wow. What the heck is my district using their money on? I never would have
imagined that a district would have that kind of budget for marketing.
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District 50 takes in north Texas and western Louisiana, so we have some
populated areas with a lot of clubs...a lot of members. A percentage of
the dues collected does go to district but I can't tell you exactly what
the ratio is.
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Nigel Reed CTM, CL
IPP - Plano Talkers Toastmasters
Area 42 Govenor (Plains Division, District 50, Region III) |
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Colin William
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| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:59 am Post subject: Re: is it true? |
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"Nigel Reed" <see@www.nelgin.nu-slash-qconfirm.html.invalid> wrote
| Quote: | Wow. What the heck is my district using their money on? I never would
have
imagined that a district would have that kind of budget for marketing.
District 50 takes in north Texas and western Louisiana, so we have some
populated areas with a lot of clubs...a lot of members. A percentage of
the dues collected does go to district but I can't tell you exactly what
the ratio is.
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d11 (Indiana and a bit of northern Kentucky) is smaller than yours in terms
of dues renewals, by about 1200 or so it looks like. so not too many
numerically, but that'd likely pay for a good bit of advertising.
Colin |
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rich.hopkins@gmail.com
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| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:43 am Post subject: Re: is it true? |
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Gee, my District is only about 750 people. Maybe I should change my
name to Mr. Smith.
Rich Hopkins - ATM-G - Jimmy Stewart Fan
www.richhopkins.net
www.buildingachampion.blogspot.com
Colin William wrote:
| Quote: | "Nigel Reed" <see@www.nelgin.nu-slash-qconfirm.html.invalid> wrote
Wow. What the heck is my district using their money on? I never would
have
imagined that a district would have that kind of budget for marketing.
District 50 takes in north Texas and western Louisiana, so we have some
populated areas with a lot of clubs...a lot of members. A percentage of
the dues collected does go to district but I can't tell you exactly what
the ratio is.
d11 (Indiana and a bit of northern Kentucky) is smaller than yours in terms
of dues renewals, by about 1200 or so it looks like. so not too many
numerically, but that'd likely pay for a good bit of advertising.
Colin |
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Eric Matto
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| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: is it true? |
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| Quote: | Districts can pay for expenses to market Toastmasters in order to build
new clubs but cannot pay for expenses to market Toastmasters to attract
members to Toastmasters clubs. And that the latter must be done and paid
for by the individual clubs.
Marketing is about attracting potential new members as well as clubs. Many |
district-wide marketing efforts will attract members to existing clubs.
| Quote: | Member pay dues dues to clubs, including the TI portion. Club give the
members' TI dues to TI. TI returns part of those mber TI dues to the
Districts based on number of members. What do the districts do with these
monies?
Districts get 25% of the dues which clubs pay to TI. 25% of this money must |
be kept on reserve at world HQ and is not available for spending.There are
budgetary guidelines on what Districts can spend their money on and in what
proportion. The following is taken from information available for download
from TI's website:
District Budget
a. Marketing - no budget limit
- Purchase and printing of promotional material; cost of materials to
attract potential members and clubs
b. Communication and Public Relations - maximum 25% of total budget
- Cost of producing the district newsletter, website and directory
c. Education & Training - maximum 30% of total budget
- Purchases and Printing of Educational Materials and other costs related to
acquiring and producing educational materials used at club officer training
sessions
d. Speech contests - maximum 10% of total budget
- Cost of awards and certificates presented to speech contest participants
e. Administration - maximum 20% of total budget
- Telephone, postage, stationery, photocopying and other administrative
expenses relating to conducting district business
f. Travel - maximum 30% of total budget
- within District - Travel reimbursements to the District officers This
includes travel to Division and Area Officer training, club charters,
official Toastmaster business within the District
- mid year Top 3 Training - Transportation, accommodation and registration
only
- Regional conference - Transportation (if not provided by WHQ),
accommodation and registration only - for Top3-elect, current DG, District
Treasurer and PRO if these last 2 attend specific training
- International convention - Transportation (If not provided by WHQ),
accommodation and registration only - for Top 3, IPDG
g. Other - maximum 10% of total budget
- Any anticipated expenses that do not fit into any of the specific
activities in the budget.
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Eric Matto, DTM, PDG
Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Treasurer, Voice of Experience Advanced TM Club #583400-60
Member, Mississauga Valley Club #8277-60
Member, Creekside TD Club #864603-60 |
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Colin William
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| Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: is it true? |
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<rich.hopkins@gmail.com> wrote
| Quote: | Gee, my District is only about 750 people. Maybe I should change my
name to Mr. Smith.
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I don't think the 5000 number refers to members, but rather to times dues
were paid. Looks like we had 1900+ renewals (still a lot) in April. Then it
looks like new members aren't necessarily counted, or members in new clubs.
It's a little hard for me to decipher.
Colin |
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Joy
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| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:39 am Post subject: Re: is it true? |
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"Eric Matto" <picaresque@mindless.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Districts can pay for expenses to market Toastmasters in order to build
new clubs but cannot pay for expenses to market Toastmasters to attract
members to Toastmasters clubs. And that the latter must be done and paid
for by the individual clubs.
Marketing is about attracting potential new members as well as clubs. Many
district-wide marketing efforts will attract members to existing clubs.
Member pay dues dues to clubs, including the TI portion. Club give the
members' TI dues to TI. TI returns part of those mber TI dues to the
Districts based on number of members. What do the districts do with these
monies?
Districts get 25% of the dues which clubs pay to TI. 25% of this money
must be kept on reserve at world HQ and is not available for spending.
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If the money must be kept on reserve at world HQ and is not available for
spending, then the district doesn't really get it, does it?
Joy |
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Eric Matto
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| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:42 am Post subject: Re: is it true? |
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| Quote: | Districts get 25% of the dues which clubs pay to TI. 25% of this money
must be kept on reserve at world HQ and is not available for spending.
If the money must be kept on reserve at world HQ and is not available for
spending, then the district doesn't really get it, does it?
No, but it's not TI's to spend either. I guess it could be used as a |
contingency, in case of some unforeseen event like a District losing a lot
of money on a conference or something.
Incidentally, Districts actually don't get any of their money from TI
automatically but have to ask for it as needed. They have to file various
reports on time with TI in order to be eligible to withdraw their money. I
remember as DG being aware of District cash flows since we would have to ask
for our money in advance of actually needing it because of the lead time
involved. When making TI catalogue purchases, Districts can apply their
balance at TI directly without having to request a cheque.
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Eric Matto, DTM, PDG
Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Treasurer, Voice of Experience Advanced TM Club #583400-60
Member, Mississauga Valley Club #8277-60
Member, Creekside TD Club #864603-60 |
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p c
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| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:43 am Post subject: Re: is it true? |
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Eric Matto wrote:
| Quote: | District Budget
a. Marketing - no budget limit
- Purchase and printing of promotional material; cost of materials to
attract potential members and clubs
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Thanks, Eric. That was useful.
Are either of the following prohibited for the district:
1. The district pays for expenses (TI promotional brochures and similar
expenses) for an event to attract new members to existing clubs.
2. The district does not pay but is listed as the sponsor of an event to
attract new members to existing clubs. |
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