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The Doctor
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 Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:53 am Post subject: Re: Toastmasters Prime |
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In article <376t65-lhb.ln1@news.sysadmininc.com>,
<nigel@sysadmininc.com> wrote:
| Quote: | rich.hopkins@gmail.com <rich.hopkins@gmail.com> wrote:
Top Poster - you annoy me. I've had it with you and the rest of your
cronies. Pissing in a public pool just because you're upset with one
person is irrational, impolite, and just plain mean.
Its not as if we know who it is or have any control over whoever
you're mad at.
Why are you even responding to this kook? I killfiled him and his other
buddies who appeared here all of a sudden weeks ago. Obviously
complaints to his ISP are obviously going to the bit bucket.
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Nigel Reed ACS, oCL (It's really an ATM-S in an ideal world)
District 50 Public Relations Officer http://www.toastmastersd50.org
http://www.toastytips.com - Tips of Toastmasters (submissions welcome)
http://toastmasters.sysadmininc.com - Toastmasters Club Mapping Project
Unofficial Area Motto: "I'm sure there's a speech in that somewhere"
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2 of us have had the same response to their abuse. I wonder if any
net.abuse group will hear us out.
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Member - Liberal International
This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
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Rick
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:30 am Post subject: Re: Toastmasters Prime |
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Top Poster, has said his ISP has identified this person as a
Toastmaster. I've been active alt.org.toastmasters for about 20 years
and I've never seen this person. So I don't think he's part of this group.
That leaves two possibilities. One, he is a member of Toastmasters
International. Two, he works for Toastmaster Corp.. Their membership
and employee records are closed, so I don't know how his ISP would
decide that he was a Toastmaster.
I do miss the Usenet. In those days, I would have had our company's
sysadmin have a chat with his company's sysadmin. This problem would
have been solved long ago.
Rick
rich.hopkins@gmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | Top Poster - you annoy me. I've had it with you and the rest of your
cronies. Pissing in a public pool just because you're upset with one
person is irrational, impolite, and just plain mean.
Its not as if we know who it is or have any control over whoever
you're mad at.
Rich.
On Jan 26, 7:32 am, "TopPoster" <TopPos...@Poster.Com> wrote:
Why not ask the toastmaster member who is doing the flooding to stop, he
flooded all the groups he visits along with a partner named Ross, and be
careful of the type of people you let into toastmasters
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Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If
a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous
ni...@sysadmininc.com> wrote in message
news:gfuq65-tot.ln1@news.sysadmininc.com...
John Goalby <jgoa...@gmail.com> wrote:
I just wrote to the creator of this site to ask if filtering of the
spam
was a possibility. I will update this group to let you know the
response.
Why not just as your usenet provider to run cleanfeed?
--
Nigel Reed ACS, oCL (It's really an ATM-S in an ideal world)
District 50 Public Relations Officerhttp://www.toastmastersd50.org
http://www.toastytips.com- Tips of Toastmasters (submissions welcome)
http://toastmasters.sysadmininc.com- Toastmasters Club Mapping Project
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TopPoster
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 8:51 am Post subject: Re: Toastmasters Prime |
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He is at the Edmonton Canada club, ask John Flemming about him
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Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If
a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous
"Rick" <Rick.Clements2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:7FUmj.1866$7S5.166@trndny08...
| Quote: | Top Poster, has said his ISP has identified this person as a
Toastmaster. I've been active alt.org.toastmasters for about 20 years
and I've never seen this person. So I don't think he's part of this group.
That leaves two possibilities. One, he is a member of Toastmasters
International. Two, he works for Toastmaster Corp.. Their membership
and employee records are closed, so I don't know how his ISP would
decide that he was a Toastmaster.
I do miss the Usenet. In those days, I would have had our company's
sysadmin have a chat with his company's sysadmin. This problem would
have been solved long ago.
Rick
rich.hopkins@gmail.com wrote:
Top Poster - you annoy me. I've had it with you and the rest of your
cronies. Pissing in a public pool just because you're upset with one
person is irrational, impolite, and just plain mean.
Its not as if we know who it is or have any control over whoever
you're mad at.
Rich.
On Jan 26, 7:32 am, "TopPoster" <TopPos...@Poster.Com> wrote:
Why not ask the toastmaster member who is doing the flooding to stop,
he
flooded all the groups he visits along with a partner named Ross, and
be
careful of the type of people you let into toastmasters
--
Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin
once
they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held
dear. If
a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded,
but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the
erroneous
ni...@sysadmininc.com> wrote in message
news:gfuq65-tot.ln1@news.sysadmininc.com...
John Goalby <jgoa...@gmail.com> wrote:
I just wrote to the creator of this site to ask if filtering of the
spam
was a possibility. I will update this group to let you know the
response.
Why not just as your usenet provider to run cleanfeed?
--
Nigel Reed ACS, oCL (It's really an ATM-S in an ideal world)
District 50 Public Relations Officerhttp://www.toastmastersd50.org
http://www.toastytips.com- Tips of Toastmasters (submissions welcome)
http://toastmasters.sysadmininc.com- Toastmasters Club Mapping Project
Unofficial Area Motto: "I'm sure there's a speech in that somewhere"-
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:36 am Post subject: Re: Toastmasters Prime |
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Mark Perew <perew@bokbok.squeep.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Rich -
I have this guy in my killfile. It's a useful thing to have.
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I think Rich just likes the punishment :)
--
Nigel Reed ACS, oCL (It's really an ATM-S in an ideal world)
District 50 Public Relations Officer http://www.toastmastersd50.org
http://www.toastytips.com - Tips of Toastmasters (submissions welcome)
http://toastmasters.sysadmininc.com - Toastmasters Club Mapping Project
Unofficial Area Motto: "I'm sure there's a speech in that somewhere" |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:52 am Post subject: Re: Toastmasters Prime |
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John Fleming, DTM <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Unfortunately, the one calling himself The Doctor owns his
own ISP.
It would be really cool if, when posting to Usenet
newsgroups, he followed his own TOS and AUP.
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The beauty of regular expressions is that you can kill just about
anything with them. I use leafnode and kill them before they even get
stored on my local system. In fact I could have it search for "Top
Poster" anywhere in the message header or body and kill it, however I
would have missed the original post that I replied to ;)
I could create a Usenet white list. Add the known good posters, and then
if I see replies from them to other posters not known, I can choose to
accept or kill their articles.
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Nigel Reed ACS, oCL (It's really an ATM-S in an ideal world) + LDREXC
2 Speeches + 1 Sponsorship needed for DTM. 1 Speech for next CC
District 50 Public Relations Officer http://www.toastmastersd50.org
http://www.toastytips.com - Tips of Toastmasters (submissions welcome)
http://toastmasters.sysadmininc.com - Toastmasters Club Mapping Project
Unofficial Area Motto: "I'm sure there's a speech in that somewhere" |
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betsy_in_va
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Toastmasters Prime |
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| Quote: | I can officially say that I think we should all parcticipate in Toastmasters
Prime. I don't want to stop using alt.org.toastmasters, but the new group
should be a benefit.
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I'm going to try posting in both for awhile, and see how it goes.
At least it's pretty easy to spot the spam and tell who the posers
are. So, it's mostly just an annoyance of having to scroll past a lot
of stupidity. This doesn't seem to be a personal attack against
toastmasters, we're just one of a number of newsgroups that are being
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The Doctor
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: Toastmasters Prime |
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In article <7FUmj.1866$7S5.166@trndny08>,
Rick <Rick.Clements2@verizon.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Top Poster, has said his ISP has identified this person as a
Toastmaster. I've been active alt.org.toastmasters for about 20 years
and I've never seen this person. So I don't think he's part of this group.
That leaves two possibilities. One, he is a member of Toastmasters
International. Two, he works for Toastmaster Corp.. Their membership
and employee records are closed, so I don't know how his ISP would
decide that he was a Toastmaster.
I do miss the Usenet. In those days, I would have had our company's
sysadmin have a chat with his company's sysadmin. This problem would
have been solved long ago.
Rick
rich.hopkins@gmail.com wrote:
Top Poster - you annoy me. I've had it with you and the rest of your
cronies. Pissing in a public pool just because you're upset with one
person is irrational, impolite, and just plain mean.
Its not as if we know who it is or have any control over whoever
you're mad at.
Rich.
On Jan 26, 7:32 am, "TopPoster" <TopPos...@Poster.Com> wrote:
Why not ask the toastmaster member who is doing the flooding to stop, he
flooded all the groups he visits along with a partner named Ross, and be
careful of the type of people you let into toastmasters
--
Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If
a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous
ni...@sysadmininc.com> wrote in message
news:gfuq65-tot.ln1@news.sysadmininc.com...
John Goalby <jgoa...@gmail.com> wrote:
I just wrote to the creator of this site to ask if filtering of the
spam
was a possibility. I will update this group to let you know the
response.
Why not just as your usenet provider to run cleanfeed?
--
Nigel Reed ACS, oCL (It's really an ATM-S in an ideal world)
District 50 Public Relations Officerhttp://www.toastmastersd50.org
http://www.toastytips.com- Tips of Toastmasters (submissions welcome)
http://toastmasters.sysadmininc.com- Toastmasters Club Mapping Project
Unofficial Area Motto: "I'm sure there's a speech in that
somewhere"- Hide quoted text -
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I doubt Top Pedo is a TM member. NOBODY knows him in District 42.
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Member - Liberal International
This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
Born 29 Jan 1969 Redhill Surrey England |
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The Doctor
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Toastmasters Prime |
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In article <k83u65-lle.ln1@news.sysadmininc.com>,
<nigel@sysadmininc.com> wrote:
| Quote: | John Fleming, DTM <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote:
Unfortunately, the one calling himself The Doctor owns his
own ISP.
It would be really cool if, when posting to Usenet
newsgroups, he followed his own TOS and AUP.
The beauty of regular expressions is that you can kill just about
anything with them. I use leafnode and kill them before they even get
stored on my local system. In fact I could have it search for "Top
Poster" anywhere in the message header or body and kill it, however I
would have missed the original post that I replied to ;)
I could create a Usenet white list. Add the known good posters, and then
if I see replies from them to other posters not known, I can choose to
accept or kill their articles.
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Just cleanfeed Top Poster and maybe google will not be
able to record him.
--
Member - Liberal International
This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
Born 29 Jan 1969 Redhill Surrey England |
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TopPoster
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Toastmasters Prime |
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You always try to suck up to me
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Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If
a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous
"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:fni4ll$o34$8@gallifrey.nk.ca...
| Quote: | In article <7FUmj.1866$7S5.166@trndny08>,
Rick <Rick.Clements2@verizon.net> wrote:
Top Poster, has said his ISP has identified this person as a
Toastmaster. I've been active alt.org.toastmasters for about 20 years
and I've never seen this person. So I don't think he's part of this
group.
That leaves two possibilities. One, he is a member of Toastmasters
International. Two, he works for Toastmaster Corp.. Their membership
and employee records are closed, so I don't know how his ISP would
decide that he was a Toastmaster.
I do miss the Usenet. In those days, I would have had our company's
sysadmin have a chat with his company's sysadmin. This problem would
have been solved long ago.
Rick
rich.hopkins@gmail.com wrote:
Top Poster - you annoy me. I've had it with you and the rest of your
cronies. Pissing in a public pool just because you're upset with one
person is irrational, impolite, and just plain mean.
Its not as if we know who it is or have any control over whoever
you're mad at.
Rich.
On Jan 26, 7:32 am, "TopPoster" <TopPos...@Poster.Com> wrote:
Why not ask the toastmaster member who is doing the flooding to stop,
he
flooded all the groups he visits along with a partner named Ross, and
be
careful of the type of people you let into toastmasters
--
Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin
once
they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held
dear. If
a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic,
it
should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be
discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the
erroneous
ni...@sysadmininc.com> wrote in message
news:gfuq65-tot.ln1@news.sysadmininc.com...
John Goalby <jgoa...@gmail.com> wrote:
I just wrote to the creator of this site to ask if filtering of the
spam
was a possibility. I will update this group to let you know the
response.
Why not just as your usenet provider to run cleanfeed?
--
Nigel Reed ACS, oCL (It's really an ATM-S in an ideal world)
District 50 Public Relations Officerhttp://www.toastmastersd50.org
http://www.toastytips.com- Tips of Toastmasters (submissions welcome)
http://toastmasters.sysadmininc.com- Toastmasters Club Mapping
Project
Unofficial Area Motto: "I'm sure there's a speech in that
somewhere"- Hide quoted text -
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I doubt Top Pedo is a TM member. NOBODY knows him in District 42.
--
Member - Liberal International
This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
Born 29 Jan 1969 Redhill Surrey England |
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TopPoster
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Toastmasters Prime |
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And you to
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Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If
a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous
"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:fni4o6$o34$9@gallifrey.nk.ca...
| Quote: | In article <k83u65-lle.ln1@news.sysadmininc.com>,
nigel@sysadmininc.com> wrote:
John Fleming, DTM <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote:
Unfortunately, the one calling himself The Doctor owns his
own ISP.
It would be really cool if, when posting to Usenet
newsgroups, he followed his own TOS and AUP.
The beauty of regular expressions is that you can kill just about
anything with them. I use leafnode and kill them before they even get
stored on my local system. In fact I could have it search for "Top
Poster" anywhere in the message header or body and kill it, however I
would have missed the original post that I replied to ;)
I could create a Usenet white list. Add the known good posters, and then
if I see replies from them to other posters not known, I can choose to
accept or kill their articles.
Just cleanfeed Top Poster and maybe google will not be
able to record him.
--
Member - Liberal International
This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
Born 29 Jan 1969 Redhill Surrey England |
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John Fleming, DTM
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: Toastmasters Prime |
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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:40:03 GMT, while chained to a desk in
the scriptorium nigel@sysadmininc.com wrote:
| Quote: | $John Fleming, DTM <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote:
$> Unfortunately, the one calling himself The Doctor owns his
$> own ISP.
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$> It would be really cool if, when posting to Usenet
$> newsgroups, he followed his own TOS and AUP.
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$The beauty of regular expressions is that you can kill just about
$anything with them. I use leafnode and kill them before they even get
$stored on my local system. In fact I could have it search for "Top
$Poster" anywhere in the message header or body and kill it, however I
$would have missed the original post that I replied to 
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That is a downside to those kinds of mechanisms.
We have to decide whether missing a post like the original
posters is a risk worth taking.
| Quote: | $I could create a Usenet white list. Add the known good posters, and then
$if I see replies from them to other posters not known, I can choose to
$accept or kill their articles.
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The risk with that is, if we all did something like this,
new legitimate posters who would make a good contribution to
this group would get ignored.
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John Fleming, DTM
Edmonton, Canada
Attitude Boosters Toastmasters (7022-42) - Member
Chamber Toastmasters (5594 - 42) - Member
A scientist can discover a new star but he
cannot make one. He would have to ask an
engineer to do it for him.
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Rick
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:40 am Post subject: Re: Toastmasters Prime |
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nigel@sysadmininc.com wrote:
| Quote: | John Goalby <jgoalby@gmail.com> wrote:
I just wrote to the creator of this site to ask if filtering of the
spam
was a possibility. I will update this group to let you know the
response.
Why not just as your usenet provider to run cleanfeed?
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I see very little spam. A burst got though a little while ago. So
either they got tired or my ISP's filters are getting tuned to the spam.
Rick Clements, DTM
VPM Daylighters |
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The Doctor
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: Toastmasters Prime |
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In article <1pcpj.663$f73.244@trndny08>,
Rick <Rick.Clements2@verizon.net> wrote:
| Quote: | nigel@sysadmininc.com wrote:
John Goalby <jgoalby@gmail.com> wrote:
I just wrote to the creator of this site to ask if filtering of the
spam
was a possibility. I will update this group to let you know the
response.
Why not just as your usenet provider to run cleanfeed?
I see very little spam. A burst got though a little while ago. So
either they got tired or my ISP's filters are getting tuned to the spam.
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Most likely the latter. I still will work with cleanffed
that with killfiles any day.
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Member - Liberal International
This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
Alberta! Time for a change and beware Alliance in PC clothing. Vote Liberal! |
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rich.hopkins@gmail.com
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: Toastmasters Prime |
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I figured the spam would stop once we switched sites - why bother a
group when many of the active posters have left?
So, we could migrate back here - but we do again put ourselves at risk
of getting slammed again. Not everybody wants to deal with filters,
etc, and ToastmastersPrime solves that simply. But I can understand
the lack of motivation for some of super-saavy tech folks like Nigel
and Rick and John to want to stay with the older group.
Mark and Colin and I, and Betsy too seem to be co-existing a bit, and
we'd love your input in TPrime.
Rich.
On Feb 2, 10:35 pm, Rick <Rick.Clemen...@verizon.net> wrote:
| Quote: | ni...@sysadmininc.com wrote:
John Goalby <jgoa...@gmail.com> wrote:
I just wrote to the creator of this site to ask if filtering of the
spam
was a possibility. I will update this group to let you know the
response.
Why not just as your usenet provider to run cleanfeed?
I see very little spam. A burst got though a little while ago. So
either they got tired or my ISP's filters are getting tuned to the spam.
Rick Clements, DTM
VPM Daylighters |
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Top Poster
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: Toastmasters Prime |
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Please write English not gibberish, you have lived this country for 37 years
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Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If
a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous
"The Doctor" <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote in message
news:fo4gkv$9gl$1@gallifrey.nk.ca...
| Quote: | In article <1pcpj.663$f73.244@trndny08>,
Rick <Rick.Clements2@verizon.net> wrote:
nigel@sysadmininc.com wrote:
John Goalby <jgoalby@gmail.com> wrote:
I just wrote to the creator of this site to ask if filtering of the
spam
was a possibility. I will update this group to let you know the
response.
Why not just as your usenet provider to run cleanfeed?
I see very little spam. A burst got though a little while ago. So
either they got tired or my ISP's filters are getting tuned to the spam.
Most likely the latter. I still will work with cleanffed
that with killfiles any day.
--
Member - Liberal International
This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
Alberta! Time for a change and beware Alliance in PC clothing. Vote
Liberal! |
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