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Joy
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 Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject: Re: Mapping project update |
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"Mark Perew" <perew@bokbok.squeep.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | nigel@sysadmininc.com wrote:
People also refer to the lectern as a podium much of the time.
And they are rightly corrected, usually by the GE, in the clubs I've
been to.
I suspect we're going to lose this one. Defintions are determined by
usage,
not by history. If you check dictionary.com, they've already as much as
admitted that people use the words interchangably.
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Mark Perew <perew@squeep.com
To the world you may be just one person,
but to one person you may be the world. (Source Unknown)
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Yes, I'm sure you're right about this. However, we'll have the satisfaction
of knowing that we are right, even when everybody else uses the wrong term.
;-)
Joy |
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Rick
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Mapping project update |
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Joy wrote:
| Quote: | Yes, I'm sure you're right about this. However, we'll have the satisfaction
of knowing that we are right, even when everybody else uses the wrong term.
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At what point, do you become the one that's wrong?
For example, in regards to computers, a hack is a quick & dirty program
or technique. So, a hacker had always been someone who started by
coding and not designing. It was often people who coded in assembly
language instead of a higher level language. When someone cracking into
a computer first made the news, the news media stoled the term hacker to
mean someone who cracked into computers. Now if I was to refer to
myself as a hacker, what would you think I was doing? I did hack
together a couple quick scripts to help me with what I was doing. I
also picked up a book that was titled "Audio Visual Hacks for Linux".
Rick Clements, DTM
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Joy
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: Mapping project update |
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"Rick" <Rick.Clements2@verizon.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Joy wrote:
Yes, I'm sure you're right about this. However, we'll have the
satisfaction of knowing that we are right, even when everybody else uses
the wrong term. ;-)
At what point, do you become the one that's wrong?
For example, in regards to computers, a hack is a quick & dirty program or
technique. So, a hacker had always been someone who started by coding and
not designing. It was often people who coded in assembly language instead
of a higher level language. When someone cracking into a computer first
made the news, the news media stoled the term hacker to mean someone who
cracked into computers. Now if I was to refer to myself as a hacker, what
would you think I was doing? I did hack together a couple quick scripts
to help me with what I was doing. I also picked up a book that was titled
"Audio Visual Hacks for Linux".
Rick Clements, DTM
VPM Daylighters
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Point taken.
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Mark Perew
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:12 am Post subject: Re: Mapping project update |
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Rick <Rick.Clements2@verizon.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Joy wrote:
Yes, I'm sure you're right about this. However, we'll have the satisfaction
of knowing that we are right, even when everybody else uses the wrong term.
;-)
At what point, do you become the one that's wrong?
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It's a matter of knowing your audience. When I'm in more informed circles,
I know that I can use the terms hacker and cracker, and trust that my
audience will comprehend the distinction. When I'm not in those circles, I
don't rely on that knowledge being present.
It's similiar to the correct use of the word data as a plural noun. When
I'm in my wife (a scientist and science teacher), I say "the data are" or
"the datum is". In other circles I go with the more common usage of "the
data is".
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Mark Perew <perew@squeep.com>
To the world you may be just one person,
but to one person you may be the world. (Source Unknown)
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: Mapping project update |
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Mark Perew <perew@bokbok.squeep.com> wrote:
| Quote: | It's similiar to the correct use of the word data as a plural noun. When
I'm in my wife (a scientist and science teacher), I say "the data are" or
"the datum is". In other circles I go with the more common usage of "the
data is".
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To be honest, I'm not sure what you say when you're in your wife is any
of our business, but maybe I'll try saying "the datum is in" next time ;)
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Nigel Reed ACS, oCL (It's really an ATM-S in an ideal world)
District 50 Public Relations Officer http://www.toastmastersd50.org
http://www.toastytips.com - Tips of Toastmasters (submissions welcome)
http://toastmasters.sysadmininc.com - Toastmasters Club Mapping Project
Unofficial Area Motto: "I'm sure there's a speech in that somewhere" |
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betsy_in_va
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| Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: Mapping project update |
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| Oh thank you for a really good laugh! |
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Mark Perew
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:20 am Post subject: Re: Mapping project update |
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nigel@sysadmininc.com wrote:
| Quote: | Mark Perew <perew@bokbok.squeep.com> wrote:
It's similiar to the correct use of the word data as a plural noun. When
I'm in my wife (a scientist and science teacher), I say "the data are" or
"the datum is". In other circles I go with the more common usage of "the
data is".
To be honest, I'm not sure what you say when you're in your wife is any
of our business, but maybe I'll try saying "the datum is in" next time
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*ahem* That should have been "when I'm speaking with my wife".
If I could type, I'd be dangerous.
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Mark Perew <perew@squeep.com>
To the world you may be just one person,
but to one person you may be the world. (Source Unknown)
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:20 am Post subject: Re: Mapping project update |
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Mark Perew <perew@bokbok.squeep.com> wrote:
| Quote: | nigel@sysadmininc.com wrote:
Mark Perew <perew@bokbok.squeep.com> wrote:
It's similiar to the correct use of the word data as a plural noun. When
I'm in my wife (a scientist and science teacher), I say "the data are" or
"the datum is". In other circles I go with the more common usage of "the
data is".
To be honest, I'm not sure what you say when you're in your wife is any
of our business, but maybe I'll try saying "the datum is in" next time ;)
*ahem* That should have been "when I'm speaking with my wife".
If I could type, I'd be dangerous.
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So, this is a case of word usage changing with usage? "in" is now a
synonym for "speaking with".
I think I'll pull out the chainmail
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Nigel Reed ACS, oCL (It's really an ATM-S in an ideal world)
District 50 Public Relations Officer http://www.toastmastersd50.org
http://www.toastytips.com - Tips of Toastmasters (submissions welcome)
http://toastmasters.sysadmininc.com - Toastmasters Club Mapping Project
Unofficial Area Motto: "I'm sure there's a speech in that somewhere" |
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